Coordination Information

FASMA Coordination form

  • Please when submitting the form, email it to coord@fasma.org and use a descriptive subject such as “W4ABC Frostproof new 440 Repeater“.
  • Do not submit multiple repeaters per email
    • One email for each repeater
    • If you need to add more information, reply to the email response you got. Don’t just email another to coord@fasma.org, it will open another ticket and add to our workload.
  • Do not submit the form as an image/screenshot/raster
  • Submit the properly filled out PDF form only. We need to be able to copy and paste from it.
  • Have the form filled out correctly, please.
  • Do not submit a form for a repeater site unless you have permission in hand to go on the site.
    • Doing a coordination for a repeater where it’s on a 150 meter tower is lots of work to find a working frequency. When we do this and get an email back after finding a frequency of
      oh ya, sorry, can’t get on that big tower after all, so I’m putting it at my house at 10 meters, here’s the new location
      This is just a huge waste of time. The repeater would have been served well by our itinerant policy
  • If your repeater is under 15 meters/50 feet above ground, and is at your house, why won’t it fit under the itinerant policy? We still list these if you file the application.
  • If asked questions by our staff, please answer them completely.
When filling out the coordination form we need the following:
 
  1. Repeater Callsign

    • The callsign the repeater will identify with
    • The person making the application should be the holder or trustee of this callsign.

  2. Entity holding coordination

    • This is the legal entity holding the coordination
    • If a club, it must be either incorporated and current in sunbiz.org or have an FCC club callsign.
    • FASMA needs a clear legal point of contact, and cannot be expected to discern ownership of a coordination with no clear legal entity.
    • A coordination may be held personally as well.

  3. Holder email

    • Email address for the holder of coordination

  4. Holder postal address

    • This should the address the holder can receive mail at.

  5. Trustee Phone number

    • This is kept in confidence and is not public information
    • This number is the primary number to contact the trustee for technical details

  6. County

    • County the repeater is located in
    • This must be a valid county in the state of Florida
    • Wikipedia has a list

  7. City

    • City the repeater is located in.
    • This will be in the listings
    • If outside of a city, the closest city may be listed.

  8. Location

    • This is in DECIMAL DEGREES i.e. 27.95, -082.46
    • We only require down to two decimal places.
    • This is reasonably accurate for propagation modeling, but not so much so that it will endanger your site. This was a problem in the past and the way to prevent it is not knowing the exact location. If FASMA doesn’t know the exact location, we can’t disclose it.
    • If you have Degrees Minutes Seconds, use this converter
    • WGS84 is the datum. This is the standard datum used by GPS satellites, but if you have NAD83 (The FCC uses NAD 83) this converter may be used.
    • DO NOT USE YOUR LOCAL AIRPORT AS THE REPEATER LOCATION

  9. Frequency

    • This need not be a specific frequency, a band or range/list is ok. FASMA will attempt to locate a working frequency for you.
    • This is the output and optionally input frequency if non-standard
    • FASMA only coordinates output frequencies.


  10. Channel Bandwidth.

        • This is the bandwidth in KHz of the channel you’re requesting
        • This varies based on band segment and modulation.
        • Please refer to the bandplans
        • 50-54 MHz – 20/10 KHz
        • 144-146 MHz – 20/10 KHz
        • 146-148 MHz – 15/7.5 KHz
        • 222-225 MHz – 20/10 KHz
        • 420-440 MHZ – 6000 KHz ATV, 100 KHz digital, 25 KHz linking
        • 440-450 MHz – 25/12.5 KHz
        • 902-928 MHz – 25/12.5 KHz – Note 25 KHz is rarely used here
        • 1240-1300 MHz – 100/50 KHz

  11. Emission Designatior(s)

    • FASMA uses ITU Emission Designators
    • Up to two may be listed
    • The following are supported:
    • Emission Common Name
      150HA1A CW (morse)
      2K80J3E SSB
      4K00F1E NXDN Voice
      6K00A3E AM Voice (DSB)
      6K25F7W Dstar Voice/Data
      7K60FXE 2 slot DMR Voice
      8K10F1E P25 Phase 1
      8K30F1E NXDN 12.5 KHz Voice
      9K36F7W Yaesu Fusion
      9K80D7W P25 Phase 2 TDMA 2 Slot
      11K2F3E Narrow FM Voice
      16K0F3E Wideband FM Voice
      16K0F2D
      Packet 1200 BPS, 4KHz (15khz channel)
      20K0F2D Wide Band Packet Radio
      21K0D1W TETRA Standard
      135KD7W Dstar 128k digital Data
      5M75C3F
      NTSC Video with 250K0F3E aural carrier

  12. Access Code

    • This is the CTCSS or DCS code for analog
    • DMR uses a Color Code
    • NXDN uses a RAN
    • P25 uses a NAC
    • Other access for ATV/etc.
    • FASMA doesn’t permit repeaters which do not use an access code.
    • A repeater is expected to transmit and receive a code. Repeaters which do not transmit a code make it much more likely their users will hear adjacent users.
    • It’s 2020, buy a radio that can do CTCSS.
    • There is no grandfathering of this, you’re holding back the rest of the state if you choose to not run something other than carrier squelch.

  13. Antenna Manufacturer

    • The manufacturer name of the antenna
    • i.e. Commscope

  14. Antenna Model

    • The model of the antenna
    • i.e. DB-420

  15. Antenna Gain in dBd

    • The antenna gain expressed in decibels in reference to a dipole
    • If you have dBi, subtract 2.15 dB from this to get dBd
    • We will verify this, which is why we ask for manufacturer and model

  16. Antenna pattern if not omnidirectional

    • Most repeaters will be omni and FASMA models everyrthing as such at this time
    • Our future intent is to model using the actaual pattern and is why we request it.

  17. Antenna azmiuth

    • The orintation of the antenna as degrees as installed

  18. Antenna Height

    • The height above ground of the antenna expressed in meters.
    • Google can convert between imperial and meters if you need it.

  19. Feedline type

    • The manufacturer and model of the feedline
    • i.e. Commscope LDF4-50a – 1/2 hardline
    • Don’t just put “Hardline”
    • Also FASMA will coordinate repeaters using LDF cables, but encourages trustees to be aware of the issues regarding braided cables in duplex service.

  20. Feedline Length in Meters

    • Length of feedline in meters

  21. Power into the feedline

    • This is not the power output of the repeater, it is the power into the feedline after the duplexer or filtering loss.
    • A watt meter is placed in the output of the filters where the feedline leaves the equipment room and this is the power measurement needed here.

  22. Supporting Structure type

    • This is the same codes used by the FCC
    • Code - Description
      B - Building
      BANT - Building with Antenna on Top
      BMAST - Building with Mast
      BPIPE - Building with Pipe
      BPOLE - Building with Pole
      BRIDG - Bridge
      BTWR - Building with Tower
      GTOWER - Guyed Structure Used For Communication Purposes
      LTOWER - Lattice Tower
      MAST - Mast
      MTOWER - Monopole
      NNGTANN - Guyed Tower Array
      NNLTANN - Lattice Tower Array
      NNMTANN - Monopole Array
      PIPE - Any type of Pipe
      POLE - Any type of Pole
      RIG - Oil or Other Type of Rig
      SIGN - Any type of Sign or Billboard
      SILO - Any type of Silo
      STACK - Smoke Stack
      TANK - Any type of Tank (water, gas, etc.)
      TREE - When used as a support for an antenna
      UPOLE - Utility Pole/Tower used to provide service
      
      

  23. Use

    • Free form use, is it bilingual? RACES? SARNET? etc.

  24. Features

    • Free form features, Autopatch, backup power, etc.

  25. URL

    • What is the URL people can go to for more information on your repeater?

  26. Additional information

    • Any additional information that might be helpful to the FASMA coordination committee

  27. Submitted by

    • Who is submitting this?
    • If you’re not the trustee you will need permission of the trustee as an affidavit.
    • Please, it’s much easier if the trustee does it.

  28. Date

    • Date submission is filed.
  Bottom Line, fill out the application correctly and we can coordinate it. If we have to play 20 questions with you going back and forth chasing the repeater location around the county and frequency, we’re not going to do anything accept waste time. A normal repeater application takes at least 60 minutes of time to process. As of now we have several where there’s over 5 hours of time recorded in the ticketing system. If we are not moving fast enough, please offer to help out. Send your ssh key to rt@fasma.org and we’ll get you going. You’ll need to have some basic understanding of database and computers, but we’re happy to teach the rest of coordination. Read our Libary too.