- Please when submitting the form, email it to firstname.lastname@example.org and use a descriptive subject such as “W4ABC Frostproof new 440 Repeater“.
- Do not submit multiple repeaters per email
- One email for each repeater
- If you need to add more information, reply to the email response you got. Don’t just email another to email@example.com, it will open another ticket and add to our workload.
- Do not submit the form as an image/screenshot/raster
- Submit the properly filled out PDF form only. We need to be able to copy and paste from it.
- Have the form filled out correctly, please.
- Do not submit a form for a repeater site unless you have permission in hand to go on the site.
- Doing a coordination for a repeater where it’s on a 150 meter tower is lots of work to find a working frequency. When we do this and get an email back after finding a frequency of
oh ya, sorry, can’t get on that big tower after all, so I’m putting it at my house at 10 meters, here’s the new location
This is just a huge waste of time. The repeater would have been served well by our itinerant policy
- If your repeater is under 15 meters/50 feet above ground, and is at your house, why won’t it fit under the itinerant policy? We still list these if you file the application.
- If asked questions by our staff, please answer them completely.
When filling out the coordination form we need the following:
- The callsign the repeater will identify with
- The person making the application should be the holder or trustee of this callsign.
Entity holding coordination
- This is the legal entity holding the coordination
- If a club, it must be either incorporated and current in sunbiz.org or have an FCC club callsign.
- FASMA needs a clear legal point of contact, and cannot be expected to discern ownership of a coordination with no clear legal entity.
- A coordination may be held personally as well.
- Email address for the holder of coordination
Holder postal address
- This should the address the holder can receive mail at.
Trustee Phone number
- This is kept in confidence and is not public information
- This number is the primary number to contact the trustee for technical details
- County the repeater is located in
- This must be a valid county in the state of Florida
- Wikipedia has a list
- City the repeater is located in.
- This will be in the listings
- If outside of a city, the closest city may be listed.
- This is in DECIMAL DEGREES i.e. 27.95, -082.46
- We only require down to two decimal places.
- This is reasonably accurate for propagation modeling, but not so much so that it will endanger your site. This was a problem in the past and the way to prevent it is not knowing the exact location. If FASMA doesn’t know the exact location, we can’t disclose it.
- If you have Degrees Minutes Seconds, use this converter
- WGS84 is the datum. This is the standard datum used by GPS satellites, but if you have NAD83 (The FCC uses NAD 83) this converter may be used.
- DO NOT USE YOUR LOCAL AIRPORT AS THE REPEATER LOCATION
- This need not be a specific frequency, a band or range/list is ok. FASMA will attempt to locate a working frequency for you.
- This is the output and optionally input frequency if non-standard
- FASMA only coordinates output frequencies.
- This is the bandwidth in KHz of the channel you’re requesting
- This varies based on band segment and modulation.
- Please refer to the bandplans
- 50-54 MHz – 20/10 KHz
- 144-146 MHz – 20/10 KHz
- 146-148 MHz – 15/7.5 KHz
- 222-225 MHz – 20/10 KHz
- 420-440 MHZ – 6000 KHz ATV, 100 KHz digital, 25 KHz linking
- 440-450 MHz – 25/12.5 KHz
- 902-928 MHz – 25/12.5 KHz – Note 25 KHz is rarely used here
- 1240-1300 MHz – 100/50 KHz
- FASMA uses ITU Emission Designators
- Up to two may be listed
- The following are supported:
||AM Voice (DSB)
||2 slot DMR Voice
||P25 Phase 1
||NXDN 12.5 KHz Voice
||P25 Phase 2 TDMA 2 Slot
||Narrow FM Voice
||Wideband FM Voice
Packet 1200 BPS, 4KHz (15khz channel)
||Wide Band Packet Radio
||Dstar 128k digital Data
NTSC Video with 250K0F3E aural carrier
- FASMA has a list of suggested tones per county
- This is the CTCSS or DCS code for analog
- DMR uses a Color Code
- NXDN uses a RAN
- P25 uses a NAC
- Other access for ATV/etc.
- FASMA doesn’t permit repeaters which do not use an access code.
- A repeater is expected to transmit and receive a code. Repeaters which do not transmit a code make it much more likely their users will hear adjacent users.
- It’s 2020, buy a radio that can do CTCSS.
- There is no grandfathering of this, you’re holding back the rest of the state if you choose to not run something other than carrier squelch.
- The manufacturer name of the antenna
- i.e. Commscope
- The model of the antenna
- i.e. DB-420
Antenna Gain in dBd
- The antenna gain expressed in decibels in reference to a dipole
- If you have dBi, subtract 2.15 dB from this to get dBd
- We will verify this, which is why we ask for manufacturer and model
Antenna pattern if not omnidirectional
- Most repeaters will be omni and FASMA models everyrthing as such at this time
- Our future intent is to model using the actaual pattern and is why we request it.
- The orintation of the antenna as degrees as installed
- The height above ground of the antenna expressed in meters.
- Google can convert between imperial and meters if you need it.
- The manufacturer and model of the feedline
- i.e. Commscope LDF4-50a – 1/2 hardline
- Don’t just put “Hardline”
- Also FASMA will coordinate repeaters using LDF cables, but encourages trustees to be aware of the issues regarding braided cables in duplex service.
Feedline Length in Meters
- Length of feedline in meters
Power into the feedline
- This is not the power output of the repeater, it is the power into the feedline after the duplexer or filtering loss.
- A watt meter is placed in the output of the filters where the feedline leaves the equipment room and this is the power measurement needed here.
Supporting Structure type
- This is the same codes used by the FCC
Code - Description
B - Building
BANT - Building with Antenna on Top
BMAST - Building with Mast
BPIPE - Building with Pipe
BPOLE - Building with Pole
BRIDG - Bridge
BTWR - Building with Tower
GTOWER - Guyed Structure Used For Communication Purposes
LTOWER - Lattice Tower
MAST - Mast
MTOWER - Monopole
NNGTANN - Guyed Tower Array
NNLTANN - Lattice Tower Array
NNMTANN - Monopole Array
PIPE - Any type of Pipe
POLE - Any type of Pole
RIG - Oil or Other Type of Rig
SIGN - Any type of Sign or Billboard
SILO - Any type of Silo
STACK - Smoke Stack
TANK - Any type of Tank (water, gas, etc.)
TREE - When used as a support for an antenna
UPOLE - Utility Pole/Tower used to provide service
- Free form use, is it bilingual? RACES? SARNET? etc.
- Free form features, Autopatch, backup power, etc.
- What is the URL people can go to for more information on your repeater?
- Any additional information that might be helpful to the FASMA coordination committee
- Who is submitting this?
- If you’re not the trustee you will need permission of the trustee as an affidavit.
- Please, it’s much easier if the trustee does it.
- Date submission is filed.
Bottom Line, fill out the application correctly and we can coordinate it. If we have to play 20 questions with you going back and forth chasing the repeater location around the county and frequency, we’re not going to do anything accept waste time. A normal repeater application takes at least 60 minutes of time to process. As of now we have several where there’s over 5 hours of time recorded in the ticketing system.
If we are not moving fast enough, please offer to help out. Send your ssh key to firstname.lastname@example.org
and we’ll get you going. You’ll need to have some basic understanding of database and computers, but we’re happy to teach the rest of coordination. Read our Libary too.